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Hello! I would like to ask for your assistance with using a Silverstone DA1650 Gold computer power supply (you can find more about it here: Silverstone DA1650 Gold) for a non-computer application. In this specific setup, I intend to utilize only the 12V rail, which could potentially draw up to 110A. My plan involves cutting the connectors of 9 EPS 8-pin CPU +12 and GND power connectors and connecting them using solderless crimp terminal connectors (yellow 10-12 AWG). Each of the 3 application inputs will require 3 EPS connectors, each consisting of 4 wires.

Brief Problem Description: I encountered some issues and questions during my initial power supply testing. When I connected the Green PS-ON wire to GND, the power supply turned on successfully. I applied a 1A electronic load to measure the 12V rail, and it displayed a stable voltage. However, every time I turn on the power supply, I hear a loud noise resembling a spark. I initially thought it might be a relay, but after multiple attempts, I'm certain it's a spark. Despite this noise, the power supply continues to function. The spark noise is not consistently present, particularly if I turn the power supply on shortly after turning it off. However, when the power supply has been off for an extended period and is turned back on, the spark noise returns.

My Question: I'm seeking guidance on identifying and addressing this significant spike or spark issue. My primary concern is whether I can continue using this power supply for testing. Additionally, if there are any questionable choices in my setup or testing approach, I would greatly appreciate any feedback. Thank you in advance for your assistance, and please let me know if you need any additional information.

Detailed Explanation of My Steps (probably not necessary to read): Here, I'll outline the steps I took that led to these problems, as there may be some relevance. Initially, I connected the Green PS-ON wire to GND, successfully turning on the power supply. Next, I aimed to measure the 12V line using an electronic load. Initially, I applied a 100mA load to the single pins of the EPS 8-pin CPU +12 and GND, resulting in a measurement of only around 1V. I sought help online and learned that newer computer power supplies often require a larger load to activate the power rails. Consequently, I decided to gradually increase the load, starting with 1A. However, when I applied the load and turned on the power supply, I heard a large spark sound, hence, I turned it off. I suspected that I might have damaged the power supply, so I connected it to an old computer, where it successfully powered up the system, making me think that it is working properly. However, I still occasionally heard the spark noise when turning on the power supply, which concerned me. Why I did not get the 12V before, turned out to be because I did not connect the 6 additional sense wires (originally attached to the EPC 24-PIN motherboard connector) to the power supply. Now, I disconnected it from the computer to test it as before. When I applied a 1A load again, the 12V rail remained stable, but the spark noise persisted. As mentioned before, this spark noise doesn't consistently occur, especially when turning the power supply on shortly after turning it off. However, when the power supply has been off for an extended period and is turned back on, the spark noise reappears, and it's quite noticeable.

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Lundin‭ wrote 8 months ago

You won't ever get to the bottom of the cause of the "spark noise" unless you dissect the PSU, do some light reverse-engineering and see what may be the cause. However, please note that disassembling these can be dangerous even with power disconnected since the internal caps can hold high loads for quite some time. If you have no experience with repairing high VAC equipment, then the best advise is probably to leave it at that and buy a new PSU.

Elleanor Lopez‭ wrote 8 months ago

Additionally, disassembling will void any kind of warranty. I mean, the cables are cut now, so warranty is off the table anyway. Personally I would guess it is a defective unit, I would buy exactly the same unit, hook it up to a PC the way it is intended to be used, observe if the ''spark'' is present. If it is not, cut it up, hook it up to load and see if anything changes. None of my supplies have ever ''sparked'', unless I did an oopsie myself.

Lundin‭ wrote 8 months ago

And well, trouble-shooting PSUs on the product level is probably off-topic here. We'd expect questions to rather be about how to trouble-shoot them on the component level. Rectifier bridges, transformers, regulators, isolation, filters etc etc.