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Q&A Is it possible to use two zener diodes in series back to back to replace a diac?

I've accidentally burnt my dimmer with a short. It is a common dimmer with a triac/diac/pot of the simplest configuration (the triac is a BTA16). After replacing the triac, this still does not work...

2 answers  ·  posted 3y ago by coquelicot‭  ·  edited 8mo ago by Lorenzo Donati‭

#6: Post edited by user avatar Lorenzo Donati‭ · 2023-08-09T21:30:50Z (8 months ago)
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#5: Post edited by user avatar coquelicot‭ · 2020-07-22T19:08:12Z (over 3 years ago)
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  • I've accidentally burnt my dimmer with a short. It is a common dimmer with a triac/diac/pot of the simplest configuration (the triac is a BTA16). After replacing the triac, this still does not work, and I'm almost sure the problem is the DB3 diac (breakdown voltage at 32 V). I have not this beast in my lab, so, I would like to know if it is possible to use two 32V zener diodes in series, back-to-back, to obtain approximately the same effect, a question that may be interesting for its own.
  • Here is a somewhat simplified schematic (snubber and some filtering cap not included)
  • ![circuit](https://electrical.codidact.com/uploads/cCLzAu2YAEmUtCsmrWMagCK5)
  • I've accidentally burnt my dimmer with a short. It is a common dimmer with a triac/diac/pot of the simplest configuration (the triac is a BTA16). After replacing the triac, this still does not work, and I'm almost sure the problem is the DB3 diac (breakdown voltage at 32 V). I don't have this beast in my lab, so, I would like to know if it is possible to use two 32V zener diodes in series, back-to-back, to obtain approximately the same effect, a question that may be interesting for its own.
  • Here is a somewhat simplified schematic (snubber and some filtering cap not included)
  • ![circuit](https://electrical.codidact.com/uploads/cCLzAu2YAEmUtCsmrWMagCK5)
#4: Post edited by user avatar coquelicot‭ · 2020-07-22T13:43:50Z (over 3 years ago)
  • I've accidentally burnt my dimmer with a short. It is a common dimmer with a triac/diac/pot of the simplest configuration (the triac is a BTA16). After replacing the triac, this still does not work, and I'm almost sure the problem is the DB3 diac (breakdown voltage at 32 V). I have not this beast in my lab, so, I would like to know if it is possible to use two 32V zener diodes in series, back-to-back, to obtain approximately the same effect, a question that may be interesting for its own.
  • I've accidentally burnt my dimmer with a short. It is a common dimmer with a triac/diac/pot of the simplest configuration (the triac is a BTA16). After replacing the triac, this still does not work, and I'm almost sure the problem is the DB3 diac (breakdown voltage at 32 V). I have not this beast in my lab, so, I would like to know if it is possible to use two 32V zener diodes in series, back-to-back, to obtain approximately the same effect, a question that may be interesting for its own.
  • Here is a somewhat simplified schematic (snubber and some filtering cap not included)
  • ![circuit](https://electrical.codidact.com/uploads/cCLzAu2YAEmUtCsmrWMagCK5)
#3: Post edited by user avatar coquelicot‭ · 2020-07-22T13:08:22Z (over 3 years ago)
  • I've accidentally burnt my dimmer with a short. It is a common dimmer with a triac/diac/pot of the simplest configuration (the triac is a BTA16). After replacing the triac, this still does not work, and I'm almost sure the problem is the DB3 diac (breakdown voltage at 32 V). I have not this beast in my lab, so, I would like to know if it is possible to use two 32V zener diodes in series, back-to-back, to obtain approximately the same effect.
  • I've accidentally burnt my dimmer with a short. It is a common dimmer with a triac/diac/pot of the simplest configuration (the triac is a BTA16). After replacing the triac, this still does not work, and I'm almost sure the problem is the DB3 diac (breakdown voltage at 32 V). I have not this beast in my lab, so, I would like to know if it is possible to use two 32V zener diodes in series, back-to-back, to obtain approximately the same effect, a question that may be interesting for its own.
#2: Post edited by user avatar coquelicot‭ · 2020-07-22T12:59:31Z (over 3 years ago)
  • I've accidentally burnt my dimmer with a short. It is a common dimmer with a triac/diac/pot of the simplest configuration. After replacing the triac, this still does not work, and I'm almost sure the problem is the DB3 diac (breakdown voltage at 32 V). I have not this beast in my lab, so, I would like to know if it is possible to use two 32V zener diodes in series, back-to-back, to obtain approximately the same effect.
  • I've accidentally burnt my dimmer with a short. It is a common dimmer with a triac/diac/pot of the simplest configuration (the triac is a BTA16). After replacing the triac, this still does not work, and I'm almost sure the problem is the DB3 diac (breakdown voltage at 32 V). I have not this beast in my lab, so, I would like to know if it is possible to use two 32V zener diodes in series, back-to-back, to obtain approximately the same effect.
#1: Initial revision by user avatar coquelicot‭ · 2020-07-22T12:48:47Z (over 3 years ago)
Is it possible to use two zener diodes in series back to back to replace a diac?
I've accidentally burnt my dimmer with a short. It is a common dimmer with a triac/diac/pot of the simplest configuration. After replacing the triac, this still does not work, and I'm almost sure the problem is the DB3 diac (breakdown voltage at 32 V). I have not this beast in my lab, so, I would like to know if it is possible to use two 32V zener diodes in series, back-to-back, to obtain approximately the same effect.