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Q&A Is it possible to use two zener diodes in series back to back to replace a diac?

No, two zener diodes are not equivalent to a DIAC. While they both have a specific breakdown voltage, the DIAC is a special 3-layer device that exhibits a negative resistance characteristic once it...

posted 4y ago by Dave Tweed‭  ·  edited 4y ago by Dave Tweed‭

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#2: Post edited by user avatar Dave Tweed‭ · 2020-07-22T20:05:47Z (over 4 years ago)
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  • No, two zener diodes are not equivalent to a [DIAC](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DIAC).
  • While they both have a specific breakdown voltage, the DIAC is a special 3-layer device that exhibits a negative resistance characteristic once it breaks down:
  • ![DIAC characteristic curve](https://electrical.codidact.com/uploads/26M1kaP2B6x6x93Ngsw6eGcV)
  • In contrast, the two zener diodes simply stop conducting once the voltage is reduced below the breakdown level.
  • In a typical phase-control dimmer, it is the charge on the timing capacitor that is used to trigger the TRIAC. The negative resistance characteristic of the DIAC is what allows this to happen. The back-to-back zener diodes would not pass enough current to trigger the TRIAC.
  • No, two zener diodes are not equivalent to a [DIAC](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DIAC).
  • While they both have a specific breakdown voltage, the DIAC is a special 3-layer device that exhibits a negative resistance characteristic once it breaks down:
  • ![DIAC characteristic curve](https://electrical.codidact.com/uploads/26M1kaP2B6x6x93Ngsw6eGcV)
  • In contrast, the two zener diodes simply stop conducting once the voltage is reduced below the breakdown level.
  • In a typical phase-control dimmer, it is the charge on the timing capacitor that is used to trigger the TRIAC. The negative resistance characteristic of the DIAC is what allows this to happen. The back-to-back zener diodes would not pass enough current to trigger the TRIAC.
  • ---
  • You can use a couple of SCR-connected transistors (or an actual SCR) to simulate the negative-resistance characteristic of a DIAC, but only in one direction. Each of these circuits only works correctly when the upper terminal is positive with respect to the lower. But you can work around that limitation by "wrapping" either circuit in a bridge rectifier.
  • ![alternate circuits](https://electrical.codidact.com/uploads/z32ZSjJiU7qqe8mG2NYFsVqg)
#1: Initial revision by user avatar Dave Tweed‭ · 2020-07-22T13:48:56Z (over 4 years ago)
No, two zener diodes are not equivalent to a [DIAC](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DIAC).

While they both have a specific breakdown voltage, the DIAC is a special 3-layer device that exhibits a negative resistance characteristic once it breaks down:

![DIAC characteristic curve](https://electrical.codidact.com/uploads/26M1kaP2B6x6x93Ngsw6eGcV)

In contrast, the two zener diodes simply stop conducting once the voltage is reduced below the breakdown level.

In a typical phase-control dimmer, it is the charge on the timing capacitor that is used to trigger the TRIAC. The negative resistance characteristic of the DIAC is what allows this to happen. The back-to-back zener diodes would not pass enough current to trigger the TRIAC.