Communities

Writing
Writing
Codidact Meta
Codidact Meta
The Great Outdoors
The Great Outdoors
Photography & Video
Photography & Video
Scientific Speculation
Scientific Speculation
Cooking
Cooking
Electrical Engineering
Electrical Engineering
Judaism
Judaism
Languages & Linguistics
Languages & Linguistics
Software Development
Software Development
Mathematics
Mathematics
Christianity
Christianity
Code Golf
Code Golf
Music
Music
Physics
Physics
Linux Systems
Linux Systems
Power Users
Power Users
Tabletop RPGs
Tabletop RPGs
Community Proposals
Community Proposals
tag:snake search within a tag
answers:0 unanswered questions
user:xxxx search by author id
score:0.5 posts with 0.5+ score
"snake oil" exact phrase
votes:4 posts with 4+ votes
created:<1w created < 1 week ago
post_type:xxxx type of post
Search help
Notifications
Mark all as read See all your notifications »
Q&A

Post History

77%
+5 −0
Q&A What effect will extreme temperatures have on characteristic impedance of a wire?

My scenario is this: radio equipment controlling an overhead crane inside a steel mill. Specifically it is used for transporting melting pots. With the current, unfortunate installation, the antenn...

2 answers  ·  posted 2y ago by Lundin‭  ·  last activity 9mo ago by Lorenzo Donati‭

#2: Post edited by user avatar Lorenzo Donati‭ · 2023-07-27T20:50:45Z (9 months ago)
Added adjective "characteristic" to "impedance" in title and in the content to clarify the question and avoid confusion with other types of impedances.
  • What effect will extreme temperatures have on impedance in a wire?
  • What effect will extreme temperatures have on characteristic impedance of a wire?
  • My scenario is this: radio equipment controlling an overhead crane inside a steel mill. Specifically it is used for transporting melting pots. With the current, unfortunate installation, the antenna and antenna coax cable are sitting exposed just above the melting pot where it can get many hundred degrees hot.
  • The coax is a regular RG58 50Ω with copper/tin wire, copper/tin shield inside polyurethane (PUR). These are rated for +80°C but the temperature is _way_ out of specification.
  • My question is: what will happen with this coax wire in terms of impedance when the temperature just keeps rising? I'm assuming that the metal will expand, but will this have an affect on impedance and therefore also the RF signal requiring an ideal 50Ω?
  • (As a bonus, there's also a massive magnetic field from the melting process which I assume will get picked up by all metal parts, but lets keep it at one question per post.)
  • My scenario is this: radio equipment controlling an overhead crane inside a steel mill. Specifically it is used for transporting melting pots. With the current, unfortunate installation, the antenna and antenna coax cable are sitting exposed just above the melting pot where it can get many hundred degrees hot.
  • The coax is a regular RG58 50Ω with copper/tin wire, copper/tin shield inside polyurethane (PUR). These are rated for +80°C but the temperature is _way_ out of specification.
  • My question is: what will happen with this coax wire in terms of characteristic impedance when the temperature just keeps rising? I'm assuming that the metal will expand, but will this have an affect on characteristic impedance and therefore also the RF signal requiring an ideal 50Ω?
  • (As a bonus, there's also a massive magnetic field from the melting process which I assume will get picked up by all metal parts, but lets keep it at one question per post.)
#1: Initial revision by user avatar Lundin‭ · 2022-06-16T12:04:12Z (almost 2 years ago)
What effect will extreme temperatures have on impedance in a wire?
My scenario is this: radio equipment controlling an overhead crane inside a steel mill. Specifically it is used for transporting melting pots. With the current, unfortunate installation, the antenna and antenna coax cable are sitting exposed just above the melting pot where it can get many hundred degrees hot.

The coax is a regular RG58 50Ω with copper/tin wire, copper/tin shield inside polyurethane (PUR). These are rated for +80°C but the temperature is _way_ out of specification.

My question is: what will happen with this coax wire in terms of impedance when the temperature just keeps rising? I'm assuming that the metal will expand, but will this have an affect on impedance and therefore also the RF signal requiring an ideal 50Ω?

(As a bonus, there's also a massive magnetic field from the melting process which I assume will get picked up by all metal parts, but lets keep it at one question per post.)