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Your question doesn't make a lot of sense. for a sinusoidal input signal s = jω the pole exists at the resonant frequency ωr. Actually the pole exists regardless of what the input signal is. The...
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Olin Lathrop
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2022-07-11T20:07:26Z (over 2 years ago)
- Your question doesn't make a lot of sense.
- <blockquote>for a sinusoidal input signal s = jω the pole exists at the resonant frequency ω<sub>r</sub>.</blockquote>
Actually the pole exists regardless of what the input signal is. The transfer function is a description of what happens with any input signal.- <blockquote>However if we don't apply a sinusoidal signal at the input s may become a complex number->the frequency of the pole may be complex.</blockquote>
- This is the same misconception. The pole is part of the system. It is always there. It has nothing to do with what input might be thrown at that system. The pole doesn't change as a function of the input. The only thing that changes as a function of the input signal is the output signal.
- Your question doesn't make a lot of sense.
- <blockquote>for a sinusoidal input signal s = jω the pole exists at the resonant frequency ω<sub>r</sub>.</blockquote>
- Actually the pole exists regardless of what the input signal is. The transfer function is a description of what happens with any<sup>*</sup> input signal.
- <blockquote>However if we don't apply a sinusoidal signal at the input s may become a complex number->the frequency of the pole may be complex.</blockquote>
- This is the same misconception. The pole is part of the system. It is always there. It has nothing to do with what input might be thrown at that system. The pole doesn't change as a function of the input. The only thing that changes as a function of the input signal is the output signal.
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- <sup>*</sup> Any <i>real world</i> signal. Technically, any <i>analytic</i> signal, which means that it is infinitely differentiable. That in turn means the signal or any of its derivatives can't jump instantly. Real world signal always have some finite bandwidth, so can't jump instantly. Such real world signals can then be decomposed into a set of sines. Since we're talking about linear systems, contributions from multiple superimposed input signals can be analyzed separately and their results added to determine the output signal. Therefore, an input signal can be decomposed into a sum of sines, the result of each sine computed separately, then those results added to find the overall output signal. (Credit to user LvW for pointing out "any" should be qualified).
#1: Initial revision
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Olin Lathrop
·
2022-07-10T21:30:30Z (over 2 years ago)
Your question doesn't make a lot of sense. <blockquote>for a sinusoidal input signal s = jω the pole exists at the resonant frequency ω<sub>r</sub>.</blockquote> Actually the pole exists regardless of what the input signal is. The transfer function is a description of what happens with any input signal. <blockquote>However if we don't apply a sinusoidal signal at the input s may become a complex number->the frequency of the pole may be complex.</blockquote> This is the same misconception. The pole is part of the system. It is always there. It has nothing to do with what input might be thrown at that system. The pole doesn't change as a function of the input. The only thing that changes as a function of the input signal is the output signal.