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They don't outright tell you the maximum operating voltage, probably because that would imply a power level beyond what they think anyone would use this connector with. Note that it is intended fo...
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Olin Lathrop
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2024-06-15T12:50:40Z (4 months ago)
- They don't outright tell you the maximum operating voltage, probably because that would imply a power level beyond what they think anyone would use this connector with. Note that it is intended for 50 Ω transmission lines. 100 VAC would imply 200 W.
- There are two clues in how they test the insulation of this connector in production. They apply 100 VDC for 120 s to check for leakage, and 200 VAC for 60 s while verifying nothing breaks. Since these are only applied for very specific limited times, they aren't intending anyone to apply these voltages indefinitely.
- I would certainly limit instantaneous voltages to below 100 V, which means no more than 71 VAC sine before any derating. I'd feel reasonably comfortable with 50 VAC. Note that implies 50 W and 1 A. That's well beyond a typical "signal" application this connector seems to be intended for.
As for UL, they don't care about performance of the connector, only that it doesn't catch fire or otherwise hurt something.
- They don't outright tell you the maximum operating voltage, probably because that would imply a power level beyond what they think anyone would use this connector with. Note that it is intended for 50 Ω transmission lines. 100 VAC would imply 200 W.
- There are two clues in how they test the insulation of this connector in production. They apply 100 VDC for 120 s to check for leakage, and 200 VAC for 60 s while verifying nothing breaks. Since these are only applied for very specific limited times, they aren't intending anyone to apply these voltages indefinitely.
- I would certainly limit instantaneous voltages to below 100 V, which means no more than 71 VAC sine before any derating. I'd feel reasonably comfortable with 50 VAC. Note that implies 50 W and 1 A. That's well beyond a typical "signal" application this connector seems to be intended for.
- As for UL, they don't care about performance of the connector, only that it doesn't catch fire or otherwise hurt something.
- <blockquote>Purely by regulation, if the connector is UL listed, is it allowed to use it out of specs if we verify that functionally it is a non-issue, or does that no longer comply with UL?</blockquote>
- Whenever a manufacturer or certifying agency makes promises about a device, those promises are always with various parameters within limits as specified in the datasheet, certification document, or whatever. If you violate any of the stated limits, all promises are null and void.
- The above doesn't prevent you from successfully using the device while exceeding one or more limits when you're sure you understand their reasons and why they don't apply in your particular case. However, the manufacturer and/or certifying agency are no longer responsible if the device doesn't work right, electrocutes someone, burns down your house, or blows up your fuel tank. Your insurance company may also have a strong case that they are not responsible to compensate your loss since you used the device in an unapproved manner.
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Olin Lathrop
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2024-06-14T11:53:37Z (4 months ago)
They don't outright tell you the maximum operating voltage, probably because that would imply a power level beyond what they think anyone would use this connector with. Note that it is intended for 50 Ω transmission lines. 100 VAC would imply 200 W. There are two clues in how they test the insulation of this connector in production. They apply 100 VDC for 120 s to check for leakage, and 200 VAC for 60 s while verifying nothing breaks. Since these are only applied for very specific limited times, they aren't intending anyone to apply these voltages indefinitely. I would certainly limit instantaneous voltages to below 100 V, which means no more than 71 VAC sine before any derating. I'd feel reasonably comfortable with 50 VAC. Note that implies 50 W and 1 A. That's well beyond a typical "signal" application this connector seems to be intended for. As for UL, they don't care about performance of the connector, only that it doesn't catch fire or otherwise hurt something.