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Q&A How to operate a chip very close to its absolute maximum voltage?

I want to operate a BLE chip at very close to its absolute maximum voltage. The chip is nRF52810 This is intended for a battery powered device and I want to use a 3.6V non-rechargable battery dir...

2 answers  ·  posted 4mo ago by DeadMouse‭  ·  last activity 4mo ago by Lundin‭

#4: Post edited by user avatar DeadMouse‭ · 2024-07-10T17:22:56Z (4 months ago)
  • I want to operate a BLE chip at very close to its absolute maximum voltage.
  • The chip is nRF52810
  • This is intended for a battery powered device and I want to use a 3.6V non-rechargable battery directly wired to the chip.
  • However the [datasheet](https://docs.nordicsemi.com/bundle/nRF52810_PS_v1.5/resource/nRF52810_PS_v1.5.pdf) in page 409 mentions:
  • ![Image_alt_text](https://electrical.codidact.com/uploads/h90ods8ekj4zyuryejz75ri5gmac) that its absolute maximum voltage is 3.6V!
  • The battery has an open-circuit voltage 3.6V - 3.65V
  • What should I do in that case?
  • I was thinking of a series resistor 1Ω - 3Ω between the battery positive line and the VCC of the chip.
  • After the resistor a large decoupling capacitor 10uF - 47uF will form a low pass RC filter.
  • Is that going to work?
  • PS: I tried connecting the power directly to the chip and it works but I'm worried about the status of the device in long-term.
  • I want to avoid using an LDO due to power loss, the device must consume as low energy as possible.
  • I have seen similar practice: 3.6V battery directly to a microcontroller that also had an absolute maximum value of 3.6V
  • I think it was a TI sub-GHz but I found it strange to be used like that.
  • The diagram of what I suggest:
  • ![Image_alt_text](https://electrical.codidact.com/uploads/y458bp4cetd523slrw6btqibavug)
  • I want to operate a BLE chip at very close to its absolute maximum voltage.
  • The chip is nRF52810
  • This is intended for a battery powered device and I want to use a 3.6V non-rechargable battery directly wired to the chip.
  • However the [datasheet](https://docs.nordicsemi.com/bundle/nRF52810_PS_v1.5/resource/nRF52810_PS_v1.5.pdf) in page 409 mentions:
  • ![Image_alt_text](https://electrical.codidact.com/uploads/h90ods8ekj4zyuryejz75ri5gmac) that its absolute maximum voltage is 3.6V!
  • The battery has an open-circuit voltage 3.6V - 3.65V
  • What should I do in that case?
  • I was thinking of a series resistor 1Ω - 3Ω between the battery positive line and the VCC of the chip.
  • After the resistor a large decoupling capacitor 10uF - 47uF will form a low pass RC filter.
  • Is that going to work?
  • PS: I tried connecting the power directly to the chip and it works but I'm worried about the status of the device in long-term.
  • I want to avoid using an LDO due to power loss, the device must consume as low energy as possible. Currently the device consumes around 2.5uA while in sleep mode.
  • I have seen similar practice: 3.6V battery directly to a microcontroller that also had an absolute maximum value of 3.6V
  • I think it was a TI sub-GHz but I found it strange to be used like that.
  • The diagram of what I suggest:
  • ![Image_alt_text](https://electrical.codidact.com/uploads/y458bp4cetd523slrw6btqibavug)
#3: Post edited by user avatar DeadMouse‭ · 2024-07-10T17:14:52Z (4 months ago)
  • I want to operate a BLE chip at very close to its absolute maximum voltage.
  • The chip is nRF52810
  • This is intended for a battery powered device and I want to use a 3.6V non-rechargable battery directly wired to the chip.
  • However the [datasheet](https://docs.nordicsemi.com/bundle/nRF52810_PS_v1.5/resource/nRF52810_PS_v1.5.pdf) in page 409 mentions:
  • ![Image_alt_text](https://electrical.codidact.com/uploads/h90ods8ekj4zyuryejz75ri5gmac) that its absolute maximum voltage is 3.6V!
  • The battery has an open-circuit voltage 3.6V - 3.65V
  • What should I do in that case?
  • I was thinking of a series resistor 1Ω - 3Ω between the battery positive line and the VCC of the chip.
  • After the resistor a large decoupling capacitor 10uF - 47uF will form a low pass RC filter.
  • Is that going to work?
  • PS: I tried connecting the power directly to the chip and it works but I'm worried about the status of the device in long-term.
  • I want to avoid using an LDO due to power loss, the device must consume as low energy as possible.
  • I have seen similar practice: 3.6V battery directly to a microcontroller that also had an absolute maximum value of 3.6V
  • I think it was a TI sub-GHz but I found it strange to be used like that.
  • I want to operate a BLE chip at very close to its absolute maximum voltage.
  • The chip is nRF52810
  • This is intended for a battery powered device and I want to use a 3.6V non-rechargable battery directly wired to the chip.
  • However the [datasheet](https://docs.nordicsemi.com/bundle/nRF52810_PS_v1.5/resource/nRF52810_PS_v1.5.pdf) in page 409 mentions:
  • ![Image_alt_text](https://electrical.codidact.com/uploads/h90ods8ekj4zyuryejz75ri5gmac) that its absolute maximum voltage is 3.6V!
  • The battery has an open-circuit voltage 3.6V - 3.65V
  • What should I do in that case?
  • I was thinking of a series resistor 1Ω - 3Ω between the battery positive line and the VCC of the chip.
  • After the resistor a large decoupling capacitor 10uF - 47uF will form a low pass RC filter.
  • Is that going to work?
  • PS: I tried connecting the power directly to the chip and it works but I'm worried about the status of the device in long-term.
  • I want to avoid using an LDO due to power loss, the device must consume as low energy as possible.
  • I have seen similar practice: 3.6V battery directly to a microcontroller that also had an absolute maximum value of 3.6V
  • I think it was a TI sub-GHz but I found it strange to be used like that.
  • The diagram of what I suggest:
  • ![Image_alt_text](https://electrical.codidact.com/uploads/y458bp4cetd523slrw6btqibavug)
#2: Post edited by user avatar DeadMouse‭ · 2024-07-10T17:06:22Z (4 months ago)
  • I want to operate a BLE chip at very close to its absolute maximum voltage.
  • The chip is nRF52810
  • This is intended for a battery powered device and I want to use a 3.6V non-rechargable battery directly wired to the chip.
  • However the [datasheet](https://docs.nordicsemi.com/bundle/nRF52810_PS_v1.5/resource/nRF52810_PS_v1.5.pdf) in page 409 mentions:
  • ![Image_alt_text](https://electrical.codidact.com/uploads/h90ods8ekj4zyuryejz75ri5gmac) that its absolute maximum voltage is 3.6V!
  • The battery has an open-circuit voltage 3.6V - 3.65V
  • What should I do in that case?
  • I was thinking of a series resistor 1Ω - 3Ω between the battery positive line and the VCC of the chip.
  • After the resistor a large decoupling capacitor 10uF - 47uF will form a low pass RC filter.
  • Is that going to work?
  • PS: I tried connecting the power directly to the chip and it works but I'm worried about the status of the device in long-term.
  • I want to avoid using an LDO due to power loss, the device must consume as low energy as possible.
  • I want to operate a BLE chip at very close to its absolute maximum voltage.
  • The chip is nRF52810
  • This is intended for a battery powered device and I want to use a 3.6V non-rechargable battery directly wired to the chip.
  • However the [datasheet](https://docs.nordicsemi.com/bundle/nRF52810_PS_v1.5/resource/nRF52810_PS_v1.5.pdf) in page 409 mentions:
  • ![Image_alt_text](https://electrical.codidact.com/uploads/h90ods8ekj4zyuryejz75ri5gmac) that its absolute maximum voltage is 3.6V!
  • The battery has an open-circuit voltage 3.6V - 3.65V
  • What should I do in that case?
  • I was thinking of a series resistor 1Ω - 3Ω between the battery positive line and the VCC of the chip.
  • After the resistor a large decoupling capacitor 10uF - 47uF will form a low pass RC filter.
  • Is that going to work?
  • PS: I tried connecting the power directly to the chip and it works but I'm worried about the status of the device in long-term.
  • I want to avoid using an LDO due to power loss, the device must consume as low energy as possible.
  • I have seen similar practice: 3.6V battery directly to a microcontroller that also had an absolute maximum value of 3.6V
  • I think it was a TI sub-GHz but I found it strange to be used like that.
#1: Initial revision by user avatar DeadMouse‭ · 2024-07-10T17:03:49Z (4 months ago)
How to operate a chip very close to its absolute maximum voltage?
I want to operate a BLE chip at very close to its absolute maximum voltage.

The chip is nRF52810 

This is intended for a battery powered device and I want to use a 3.6V non-rechargable battery directly wired to the chip.

However the [datasheet](https://docs.nordicsemi.com/bundle/nRF52810_PS_v1.5/resource/nRF52810_PS_v1.5.pdf) in page 409 mentions:  
![Image_alt_text](https://electrical.codidact.com/uploads/h90ods8ekj4zyuryejz75ri5gmac) that its absolute maximum voltage is 3.6V! 

The battery has an open-circuit voltage 3.6V - 3.65V 

What should I do in that case?  
I was thinking of a series resistor 1Ω - 3Ω between the battery positive line and the VCC of the chip.  
After the resistor a large decoupling capacitor 10uF - 47uF will form a low pass RC filter.

Is that going to work?

PS: I tried connecting the power directly to the chip and it works but I'm worried about the status of the device in long-term.

I want to avoid using an LDO due to power loss, the device must consume as low energy as possible.