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Why are some PCB design software programs considered to be 'hobbyist' programs?

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Recently I have heard this opinion from experienced engineers when discussing PCB design software. The common opinion was that Allegro and Altium are supposedly professional programs whereas Eagle and KiCad were frowned upon. From researching online it seems that they are all capable software packages and the 'professional' ones contain very domain specific features.

Is this just an elitist gatekeeping, or is there truth to what they say? Is there a good reason to avoid 'hobbyist' software when designing PCBs?

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Why are some PCB design software programs considered to be 'hobbyist' programs?

Elitism and, folk with money to burn.

I've used Altium, PADs, OrCad, Eagle and my current personal favourite is KiCAD. Yeah it's a bit messy on libraries but it's a small price to pay.

I pretty much like Eagle (still got it on my laptop).

My choice at the time when using PADs was definitely OrCAD. PADs was OK but it had a big-bro type feel and you couldn't do what you wanted as flexibly as OrCAD. Not a big fan of mentorgraphics (PADs) when they brought out a "PoS" called DxD. You can take a guess what "PoS" stands for if you want.

I've actually got a version of Altium on my PC (because I was doing some work with Altium and got a free license) but I loath it. It's too complex and messy and unintuitive.

I'm not a hobbyist BTW.

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Like every Product, there is a price-functionality curve, and while it is true that some big ECAD software have capabilities beyond what Eagle or Kicad offer (see other answers), those capabilities are often either very niche or very high level, and thus not needed for most applications.

Kicad and Eagle both have the advantage of being free (under certain conditions for Eagle), so of course hobbyists will use those, but having a low entry cost does not mean that the ceiling of what can be achieved is low too.

I have worked both with so-called "hobbyist" and "big boy/professional" ECAD software, and in both cases, I did not choose the tool, I had to work with what the company was already using and adapt to that. When I had to procure my own software for a customer, I went with Kicad without hesitation.

On top of that, and like every software out there, some people tend to be opinionated about their habits/choice of tools, and defend them with less than perfectly objective arguments.

In conclusion, the software itself matters far less than the skill and knowledge of the designer using it, and I would be wary of anyone trying to belittle a design solely based on the software that was used.

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I will try to cover additional aspects.

Not eager on making changes - Big organizations are usually non very prone on changing their horse for the battle - sticking to their EDA choice from 20+ years ago. Doesn’t mean they would repeat it today.

Pricing - I am yet to find the company which paid the full amount for EDA tool - the bigger you are, the easier your negotiations would be. We halved the Altium price without putting too much effort in it. Other well known alternatives have been priced much much higher(x3 and x4). The “benefits” they are bringing are not beneficial to most designs I have seen.

PLM/ERP - One other aspect is integrability with the rest of the organization. Product Lifecyle Management, ERP integration etc. is something that you pay in addition bur are needed if you are big player.

If you are sole designer or small organization, go with whatever pleases you or you have money to pay for.

I know, knee-jerk reactions are omnipresent. Ignore the noise and focus on what really matters.

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