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Q&A Thévenins Theorem for Transistor Circuit

I am calculating the base current of transistor Q1. To simplify the circuit equations, I applied the Thévenin's theorem twice and converted V1, R1 and R2 into Vth and Rth, as shown in the image. ...

2 answers  ·  posted 2y ago by kadamrohan16‭  ·  edited 9mo ago by Lorenzo Donati‭

#4: Post edited by user avatar Lorenzo Donati‭ · 2023-08-09T21:13:22Z (9 months ago)
Corrected math.
  • I am calculating the base current of transistor Q1. To simplify the circuit equations, I applied the Thévenin's theorem twice and converted V1, R1 and R2 into Vth and Rth, as shown in the image.
  • <br>
  • \[
  • \begin{align}
  • V_{th} &= V_1 \times (R_2/R_1+R_2)
  • && &
  • R_{th} &= R_1 \parallel R_2
  • \\[1 em]
  • V_{th2} &= V_{th} \times (R_7/R_{th}+R_3+R_7)
  • && &
  • R_{th2} &= R_7 \parallel (R_{th}+R_3)
  • \\[1 em]
  • V_a &= \pu{0.7V} + I_b \times (h_{fe}+1) \times 200
  • \end{align}
  • \]
  • ![Circuit Diagram](https://electrical.codidact.com/uploads/3Qi9oPJTHJsp6Lw1gKDzvZMk)
  • I can accurately calculate $I_b = \pu{2.09 mA}$ by using Kirchoff's voltage law, but I'm getting an inaccurate value ($I_b= \pu{213 \mu A}$) by applying Thévenin's theorem.
  • Is Thévenin's theorem being applied incorrectly for the circuit?
  • I am calculating the base current of transistor Q1. To simplify the circuit equations, I applied the Thévenin's theorem twice and converted V1, R1 and R2 into Vth and Rth, as shown in the image.
  • <br>
  • \[
  • \begin{align}
  • V_{th} &= V_1 \times (R_2/R_1+R_2)
  • && &
  • R_{th} &= R_1 \parallel R_2
  • \\[1 em]
  • V_{th2} &= V_{th} \times (R_7/R_{th}+R_3+R_7)
  • && &
  • R_{th2} &= R_7 \parallel (R_{th}+R_3)
  • \\[1 em]
  • V_a &= \pu{0.7V} + I_b \times (h_{fe}+1) \times \pu{200\Omega}
  • \end{align}
  • \]
  • ![Circuit Diagram](https://electrical.codidact.com/uploads/3Qi9oPJTHJsp6Lw1gKDzvZMk)
  • I can accurately calculate $I_b = \pu{2.09 mA}$ by using Kirchoff's voltage law, but I'm getting an inaccurate value ($I_b= \pu{213 \mu A}$) by applying Thévenin's theorem.
  • Is Thévenin's theorem being applied incorrectly for the circuit?
#3: Post edited by user avatar Lorenzo Donati‭ · 2023-08-09T21:11:44Z (9 months ago)
Improved math formatting. Retagged.
  • I am calculating the base current of transistor Q1. To simplify the circuit equations, I applied the Thévenin's theorem twice and converted V1 and R1, R2 into Vth and Rth as shown in the image.
  • Vth= V1x(R2/R1+R2) ; Rth =R1||R2
  • Vth2= Vthx(R7/Rth+R3+R7) ; Rth2=R7||(Rth+R3)
  • Va= 0.7 + Ib x (hfe+1)x200
  • ![Circuit Diagram](https://electrical.codidact.com/uploads/3Qi9oPJTHJsp6Lw1gKDzvZMk)
  • I can accurately calculate the Ib = 2.09mA by using Kirchoff's Voltage law but getting inaccurate value ( Ib= 213uA ) by applying Thévenin's theorem.
  • Is Thévenin's theorem being applied incorrectly for the circuit?
  • Thanks in advance
  • I am calculating the base current of transistor Q1. To simplify the circuit equations, I applied the Thévenin's theorem twice and converted V1, R1 and R2 into Vth and Rth, as shown in the image.
  • <br>
  • \[
  • \begin{align}
  • V_{th} &= V_1 \times (R_2/R_1+R_2)
  • && &
  • R_{th} &= R_1 \parallel R_2
  • \\[1 em]
  • V_{th2} &= V_{th} \times (R_7/R_{th}+R_3+R_7)
  • && &
  • R_{th2} &= R_7 \parallel (R_{th}+R_3)
  • \\[1 em]
  • V_a &= \pu{0.7V} + I_b \times (h_{fe}+1) \times 200
  • \end{align}
  • \]
  • ![Circuit Diagram](https://electrical.codidact.com/uploads/3Qi9oPJTHJsp6Lw1gKDzvZMk)
  • I can accurately calculate $I_b = \pu{2.09 mA}$ by using Kirchoff's voltage law, but I'm getting an inaccurate value ($I_b= \pu{213 \mu A}$) by applying Thévenin's theorem.
  • Is Thévenin's theorem being applied incorrectly for the circuit?
#2: Post edited by user avatar Lundin‭ · 2022-05-20T07:45:56Z (almost 2 years ago)
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  • Thévenins Theorem for Transistor Circuit
  • Hello All ,
  • I am calculating the base current of transistor Q1. To simplify the circuit equations, I applied the Thevenin's theorem twice and converted V1 and R1, R2 into Vth and Rth as shown in the image.
  • Vth= V1x(R2/R1+R2) ; Rth =R1||R2
  • Vth2= Vthx(R7/Rth+R3+R7) ; Rth2=R7||(Rth+R3)
  • Va= 0.7 + Ib x (hfe+1)x200
  • ![Circuit Diagram](https://electrical.codidact.com/uploads/3Qi9oPJTHJsp6Lw1gKDzvZMk)
  • I can accurately calculate the Ib = 2.09mA by using Kirchoff's Voltage law but getting inaccurate value ( Ib= 213uA ) by applying the 'Thevenins Theoram'.
  • Is the Thevenins Theoram being applied incorrectly for the circuit ?
  • Thanks in Advance
  • I am calculating the base current of transistor Q1. To simplify the circuit equations, I applied the Thévenin's theorem twice and converted V1 and R1, R2 into Vth and Rth as shown in the image.
  • Vth= V1x(R2/R1+R2) ; Rth =R1||R2
  • Vth2= Vthx(R7/Rth+R3+R7) ; Rth2=R7||(Rth+R3)
  • Va= 0.7 + Ib x (hfe+1)x200
  • ![Circuit Diagram](https://electrical.codidact.com/uploads/3Qi9oPJTHJsp6Lw1gKDzvZMk)
  • I can accurately calculate the Ib = 2.09mA by using Kirchoff's Voltage law but getting inaccurate value ( Ib= 213uA ) by applying Thévenin's theorem.
  • Is Thévenin's theorem being applied incorrectly for the circuit?
  • Thanks in advance
#1: Initial revision by user avatar kadamrohan16‭ · 2022-05-19T15:32:30Z (almost 2 years ago)
Thevenins Theoram for Transistor Circuit 
Hello All ,
I am calculating the base current of transistor Q1. To simplify the circuit equations, I applied the Thevenin's theorem twice and converted V1 and R1, R2 into Vth and Rth as shown in the image.

Vth= V1x(R2/R1+R2) ; Rth =R1||R2

Vth2= Vthx(R7/Rth+R3+R7) ; Rth2=R7||(Rth+R3)

Va= 0.7 + Ib x (hfe+1)x200

![Circuit Diagram](https://electrical.codidact.com/uploads/3Qi9oPJTHJsp6Lw1gKDzvZMk)

I can accurately calculate the Ib = 2.09mA  by using Kirchoff's Voltage law but getting inaccurate value ( Ib= 213uA ) by applying the 'Thevenins Theoram'. 

Is the  Thevenins Theoram being applied incorrectly for the circuit ? 

Thanks in Advance