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How to design a low-pass filter when certain conditions must be met

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I am designing a low-pass filter with cut-off frequency = 100Hz and after the cutoff frequency from -3dB to -10dB the average decrease in db/Hz = -0.1 db/Hz.I know how to design a low-pass filter with cut-off frequency of 100Hz however I cannot meet the 2nd condition of the filter.How do I achieve such a thing?

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Let me try to "translate" your requirements: * Lowpass (no order specified) with -3dB at fo=100 Hz ... (1 comment)
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Simple filters don't cause a fixed ratio change in amplitude (dB) for a fixed change in linear frequency (Hz). Making the amplitude change by -0.1 dB/Hz would be very difficult. This could be done with a very carefully designed digital filter.

However, there is a loophole. Since only the average change must be -0.1 dB/Hz over a specified range, this spec is really only telling you what the relative amplitude at the ends of that range need to be.

Let's look more carefully at the problem statement:

after the cutoff frequency from -3dB to -10dB the average decrease in db/Hz = -0.1 db/Hz.

Note that -3 dB is what you get at the rolloff frequency (I don't like to call it "cutoff", it's gradual) of a single pole low pass filter. The spec starting from -3 dB therefore means starting at the rolloff frequency in the frequency dimension, which is 100 Hz in your case. At 0.1 dB/Hz, it takes another 100 Hz to get another 10 dB.

So, the spec you have really only says two things. The filter must have a gain of -3 dB at 100 Hz, and -10 dB at 200 Hz. Alternatively, you could interpret it to mean -3 dB at 100 Hz and -13 dB at 200 Hz. Your wording is a bit vague, but you seem to be paraphrasing the actual problem statement. It would have been better if you showed us the problem exactly as written. You'll have to resolve the ambiguity on your own now.

Since this is a homework problem, I'm not going further and design the filter for you.

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MissMulan‭ wrote almost 2 years ago

It isnt homework.I was just curious on the design of such a filter so here I am.

Olin Lathrop‭ wrote almost 2 years ago

Then explain how you ended up with these specific requirements and what overall problem you are trying to solve. The question currently reads like a contrived problem, just like homework.

MissMulan‭ wrote almost 2 years ago

I just picked the requirements in random , I dont have to design anything , I am doing it for fun but I dont know how to solve this problem.

Olin Lathrop‭ wrote almost 2 years ago

But your question starts out with "I have to design a low-pass filter". Don't lie to us and jerk around the volunteers here like that. Two people have now wasted time trying to help you with this filter, only to find out the very unusual and difficult requirements were totally arbitrary.

MissMulan‭ wrote almost 2 years ago

Olin I said "I have to design a low-pass filter" because I never thought we would end up at this place talking about why I am building this low-pass filter,I thought you would just help me with its design if you dont like it I can edit the question.