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Voltage of tank circuit is invalid

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In a previous question we found that for a critically damped oscillation:

$$ I(t) = 2 t e^{-0.5 t} $$

But if we integrate to find the voltage through the capacitor:

$$ V_{CO} + \frac{1}{C} \cdot \int_0^t{I(t)}dt $$

the integral is always a positive value which doesn't make any sense since the capacitor is being discharged.

What am I doing wrong here? Help appreciated!

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When it is critically damped, there is not oscillation. (1 comment)
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You need to be more careful.

First, you should have been able to see for yourself that the first equation isn't written right. I'll assume the whole "-0.5t" is the exponent of e. You were too sloppy to notice, or too lazy to fix it. Either way, it's really rude to the volunteers here. That's what the downvote is for.

Second, pay attention to the sign. The top equation always yields a positive result for positive values of t. Obviously integrating that will also yield a positive result. You have to decide which way is positive current flow, and therefore positive voltage, and stick to it. In this case, a diagram of the circuit with I and V clearly labeled would have probably caused you to see the mistake for yourself.

Taking extra care to be meticulous may seem like a waste of time, but is actually a time saver in the long run. You need to learn that sooner than later. In the real world, you don't get partial credit because your mistake was "only" flipping a sign. If it doesn't work, it doesn't work, and it's on you.

There is no place for sloppiness in engineering. Grow up.

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@#36396 I dont know how to use LaTeX and I used one of the online editors I found.I tried to find an ... (5 comments)
@#36396 I dont know how to use LaTeX and I used one of the online editors I found.I tried to find an ...
MissMulan‭ wrote over 3 years ago

Olin Lathrop‭ I dont know how to use LaTeX and I used one of the online editors I found.I tried to find an online editor which didnt do that but I couldnt find one.

cosined‭ wrote over 3 years ago · edited over 3 years ago

MissMulan‭ Please use MathJax next time to format your equations. You can use it directly on this site when typing in your questions. The Math community has a great guide on how to do so: https://math.codidact.com/help/formatting

MissMulan‭ wrote over 3 years ago

Yeah for you it may be easy I have tried learning MathJax and couldn't

Kranulis‭ wrote over 3 years ago

Olin Lathrop‭ Maybe you are a good engineer, but you are so socially inept it is just beyond belief. You will single handedly kill this forum if you keep berating new users.

Olin Lathrop‭ wrote over 3 years ago

@Kranulis: While we do give some extra slack, ultimately we don't tolerate lazy students or sloppy engineering just because this site is still young. If this site had high traffic, this question (and probably a few others with the same crayon schematics) would have simply been closed and forgotten. Instead, we took the trouble to try to educate this student. Learning about engineering is just as important as learning the engineering, although the former is less well taught in schools.